Sahlin, Eric McGill, Paul Heinonen, T. Drew African mahogany is a whole different deal and doesn't sound or look the same as the honduran stuff. Rozas, Ignacio M. I have owned several older mahogany Martin D-18's from the 40's and 50's that I would describe as a "cannon". Fibenare Guitars Oribe, Jose Burchette Eko MacDonald, S.B. Melville Bresnan Guitars Though to be fair, on most guitars it would be hard to make out the difference in tone when used as back/sides wood. Leho Ukuleles Cohen, Brian Collins Guitars Regular price $379.99 View. Anything else is cheaper woods like african and this. Honduran Mahogany is the favorite choice of instrument builders, but is very hard to find. Bailey Guitars Contreras II, Manuel Weight was always the first consideration, asthetics came second. de Lucia, Paco now my shop) One of these days or years or decades I will do something with it. Parker An inexpensive option like sapele, for instance, which is sometimes called Africa mahogany, behaves a lot like Honduran, but adds a little treble shimmer. Barthell, John Peter National Reso-phonic Boswell Guitars McKnight Ritter, Jens Lucas, Randy Bunch of dumb shits. Anderson, R.M. Wechter, Abe Hippner It has a relatively high velocity of sound, and the highest strength to weight ratio than any other wood. Honduran Mahogany vs African Mahogany. Beard, Paul Moreno, Rafael Planet Waves Sapele and African Mahogany have gained popularity for usage in exterior mouldings, including siding and soffits. This is due both to its tonal response, (once again, very similar to Alder) as well as the fact that Basswood is much more readily available to the manufacturers in Asia. Dave of England Shopis, Rodrigo Robert L. Vincent Guitars Kinnaird, Stephen Fraulini If Gibson had by chance used African Mahogany in their 50s guitars, we'd all be wanting that over Honduran. Regal Guitars Brown, Larry Ebata Perry, Daryl We will Gruner Langejans, Del Gibson Koentopp Guitars I have never owned or heard an African mahogany guitar that I would describe this way. We typically have a selection of Honduran, African and Cuban Mahogany on hand. Circa (John Slobod) Zemaitis Sakurai, Masaki Bellido, José López Rickenbacker Pederson Many guitar manufacturers as a substitute for alder are using this wood, as it is quite similar in tone. Skytop Guitars African Mahogany (scientific names – Khaya anthotheca, Khaya grandifoliola, Khaya ivorensis, Khaya senegalensis) is harder than Honduran Mahogany and is considered to be the lesser version of Honduran Mahogany. Somogyi, Ervin Posch, Leo Flammang Fay tone forum. None of the above are Limba (also known as Korina)which is not called African Mahogany. Acoustic Image There's better and worse sounding specimen in practically every type of tonewood available. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Ferrer, Casa Imai, Yuichi Tezanos-Perez, S. S. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. African Mahogany’s color is lighter pink than Honduran Mahogany, or Swietenia Macrophylla, but otherwise, its appearance is much the same. Bozung (CB Guitars) Revelator Porter, Steve Berkowitz Caruncho, Andres Gold Tone Fox, Charles Artinger Lambe, Wes Copyright 2020 © Dream Guitars All Rights Reserved. The two can appear similar. Dehradun Guitar Company Pellerin Guitars Loef It’s denser, finer-grained, and ridiculously beautiful. Yaron, Gil Avian Question I am going to build a bar using either Honduras or African mahogany. Walker, Scott Dion Guitars However, its other properties are quite different. Radial Engineering Paul Reed Smith Blackshear, Tom Desmond Guitars Zimnicki JavaScript is disabled. Moreira, Rodrigo There are many species of tree that are called “mahogany” (some accurately, some not so much). Romero, J. Banjos Woolson Ovation Robinson Appearance; The color of Honduran Mahogany varies from a pale pinkish color to deep reddish-brown color closer to orange than its African counterpart; African Mahogany is lighter in color, projecting a more pinkish hue. Delgado, Tomas New Era Sexauer, Bruce Humphrey Amplifiers LHT Guitars since being banned, swietenia macrophylla has taken its place (honduran mahogany). Rugiere Rockbridge Reunion Blues Greenfield, Michael Phillips, R.E. Myka Cuban Mahogany is a different species than the more common Honduran variety. Dream Guitars Borghino Guitars Park Fleta McElroy Kronbauer Lichty Mahogany Guitars and Ukuleles Honduran Mahogany actually grows in Hawaii - I've gotten some nice pieces from time to time to make bowls and I know a luthier who grabs what he can to make necks. Kostal, Jason Extremely informative thread, just some points that seem contradictory. Musser Guitars Hofner Banchetti, Paris Honduran Mahogany is becoming increasingly rare. LaPlante, David Klein & Kauffman Ribbon-stripe Cuban Mahogany, Swietenia mahogani — $700. Stonebridge Guitars Schneider, Richard African mahogany has staggered rays, while Honduras mahogany has storied rays. Rubio, G.V. Kragenbrink In this context, 'storied' means that the rays line up in horizontal rows, which will tend to create ripple marks on tangential (slab cut) surfaces. Dammann Custom Instruments Rodriguez e Hyos, Manuel Anderson Guitars Steinegger Guitars Barba, Francisco Ivanov Guitars Charis (Bill Wise) Musselwhite Honduran Mahogany (Swietenia macrophylla) African Mahogany (Khaya ivorensis) Mahogany is one of the most stable tonewoods. I have tap toned both Honduran and African mahogany and found the Honduran to have better resonance and velocity. Tippin, Bill Conley Eichelbaum only send emails related to this request). Lehmann Stringed Instruments So old growth African 'mahogany' vs plantation Honduran - discuss. Mahogany is usually dense, straight grained and rather light, which promotes stability and resonance and makes for easy playing guitars. Solomon Sheppard Chasson de Jonge, Joshia Thompson, Preston James May Engineering Shelton-Farretta Reactions: Gig Young and Brian N Wingert, Kathy Boaz Guitars I've read that Tom has a method of trying out the tone of the wood before selecting neck and body lumber but does that guarantee that you will get the best possible tone or is it still just a hint and the rest pure luck? Collings Koumridis b) African Mahogany–African Mahogany, also known as Khaya is a stronger and a harder version of the Honduran Mahogany. Fredell, Gustav Velazquez, Don Manuel Bills, Tom Guidry, Sam Beauregard, Mario Humphrey, Thomas Keller, Michael Sanchis, Ricardo Big Hollow Guitars An additional characteristic that sets African Mahogany apart is its chatoyant luster, which makes the wood appear to have different coloring, as it is … Is all the fuzz mostly about looks or tone? Brown, EddieLee Yong Mayes Trussart, James Walker, Scott Maldonado, Pedro November 19, 2005. theres a 3rd species in the genus as well, but its been banned for a long time. Colorado Case Covers Borges Pagelli Guitars Mahogany is a porous, but strong wood which is easy to machine and finish. Walter, Steven My experience is that out of 20 LP's one might "sing" the way you want to. Vines, Tony khaya is the genus usually called "african" mahogany. McConnell, Jordan Maingard, Marc Phoenix (Rolfe Gerhardt) Like other Mahogany, it has a warm, lively tone with clear mids and trebles. Lucas, A.J., Guitars Brown, Tad While mahogany is much easier to source than Brazilian rosewood, it’s still an endangered species, due largely to illegal logging. Ribbecke Guitars Tacchi Guitars DeVine Giffin Haight The Guitar Company Of America Williams, Laurie Altman Or maybe one day I will leave it to my grandson!.............eeeaaaa I don't think so. Like all Mahogany, its internal dampening qualities create tonal balance, with emphasis on warm mids and lows, and crisp highs. Lavoie, Benoît Guitars made from The Tree routinely sell for $30,000-$40,000. Its grain is generally tighter than that of African Mahogany. Islander By Kanilea Ukulele African and Spanish mahoganies are often used as a replacement for Honduran Mahogany. This is the holy grail stuff that so many people say is … Figured Pale Moon Ebony Dreadnought Guitar Back & Side Set #27. Smith, C.B. Kanilea Ukelele African Paduk (Pterocarpus Soyauxii) Although this wood has just recently been introduced into the guitar making world, it is receiving much praise. Howell & Forsyth Halland Guitars 3 Day Trial on All In-Stock Instruments Anywhere in the US. I live close by so I have to be extra careful ’cause all I need is just one more, Looking for something else? Lospennato Franks, MJ like swietenia, its in the mahogany family, thus a "real" mahogany. Renaissance (Rick Turner) Bacon & Day Banjo Company Tom Anderson Guitarworks The mahogany range has become fragmented, many populations have declined dramatically and the building of access roads for mahogany lumbering has encouraged broader deforestation. Kinnaird, John Giussani, Gioachino Sigurdson Bogdanovich, J.S. The ribbon stripping wasn't so apparent when I first got it, or possibly I was just to ignorant to know what I was buying......yeah that's probably it. Applegate, Brian Redgate, Jim New honduran is denser. Shanti I have bought and sold guitars (and banjos) with Paul and I really appreciate his team’s honesty and knowledge. Sitka Spruce is used more than any other species for guitar soundboards. AER Amplifiers Stromberg Honduran Mahogany has a coloring that’s closer to orange than its African counterpart; African Mahogany is lighter in color, projecting a more pinkish hue. My Les Paul is the leading online community and marketplace for Les Paul guitar fans. McAlister From the above two versions of Mahogany, the Honduran Mahogany is the more widely used wood for guitars as it has better tonal qualities. Swietenia macrophylla, commonly known as mahogany, Honduran mahogany, Honduras mahogany, big-leaf mahogany, or West Indian mahogany, is a species of plant in the Meliaceae family.It is one of three species that yields genuine mahogany timber, the others being Swietenia mahagoni and Swietenia humilis.Wikipedia Karura Cases Caton, Kevin Sapele, also African Mahogany Botanical Name: Entandrophragma Cylindricum Family: Meliaceae Specific Gravity: .62 Origin: Nigeria, Ivory Coast and Cameroon General Information: Sapele or otherwise known as African mahogany is a reddish-brown wood that in many ways is very similar to mahogany. Ensor Guitars Petros Guitars swietenia is the original genus named mahogany. Canin, Glenn Lame Horse Blazer & Henkes Gallagher Noemi Guitars Larrivee Guitars Ramirez, Jose K&K Sound Marzal, Jesus Foley Threet Baranik Kraut, Raymond Lewis, Michael Sanzone Guitar & Mandolin Co. Burguet Other uses for all three are interior and Architectural millwork, Furniture. Welker Honduran Mahogany. de Jonge, Sergei Cornerstone Guitars Smallman, Greg Breedlove Micheletti Guitars The city took down a 80' tree with about a 3-4' diameter a few years ago and hauled it to the chipper because they say no one can profit from public property. Pinkham, Ron Woodsound Studios Stewart, S. S. Banjos Manzer, Linda african mahogany doesnt seem to have that characteristics and the other “mahoganies” just dont And so guitar makers have sought sustainable alternatives. National Devoe, Lester Veillette, Joe Åstrand Guitars Forster, NK Galloup Studios Marchione Char Bouchereau Mahogany Ukulele Tonewood Sets. Typically, in guitar construction, mahogany means Central American Honduran mahogany or African mahogany. Pimentel The rays in these woods are very small, and I … Taylor, R. Casimi Guitars Gutmeier Guitars While Honduran Mahogany is known for its fine, straight grain, African Mahoganyenjoys more variety in graining: Bee’s Wing, Ribboned, and Ropey patterns distinguish this wood from any of its counterparts. they say no one can profit from public property. I have acquired a board (8/4 X 18" W X 7' L) of Honduran mahogany that has been in a friend's attic since probably sometime in the '30s or '40s. swietenia mahagoni (cuban mahogany) was the most sought after. Weissenborn All are welcome, from seasoned pros to absolute beginners. Guo, Yulong Lipton Also for decking. Southwell Guitars CLICK HERE! Ambridge, Simon The best acoustic instruments ever made (for hundreds of years) were always made from the lightest materials. McCollum, Lance Taylor Guitars Carrington Monrad, Eric It is left over from my grandfathers cabinet and fine furnishing shop (e.g. Nickerson Wood, Randy Alembic Carruth, Alan Find Brands And, the few times they do (Limited j custom runs of 6 guitars tops, and such), they make sure to specify: "Genuine honduran mahogany". Webber Guitars Dupont Guitars Join our DreamCatcherTM. Lowden Thompson, T.J. Guardian Cases McPherson Sand, Kirk You must log in or register to reply here. Cumpiano, Bill & Millard, Michael Moll Ramsey Ome McInturff, Terry Rainsong Guitars Bozo Novax Scheerhorn Guitars Pringle, Douglas Hayotuk Holst Huss & Dalton Doerr, Tom Brandt, Greg Van Linge African Mahogany & Sapele are also used for making windows and doors. Pogreba Retrograde Guitars Mahogany Guitar Tonewood Sets. Hamblin, Kent Davis, Mervyn Alvarez Yairi Fujii Guitars Franklin Guitars Henderson, E.J. Montero, Antonio Marin Chantus (William King) Cordova, Miguel Albert & Mueller Chubbuck When freshly cut it is a bright orangeish-red, but over time it oxidizes to a golden brown. Sloane It's much more of a dark red with random ribbon stripping. Hopf, Dieter Claxton, Ed Mendel, Joe Hamer Big-leaf mahogany thrives in dry tropical forests ranging from southern Mexico to the Amazon basin. Dobro Wilborn Guitars Mountain Song Guitars Triggs Kolaya Kerman, Arik Rothel (Röthel, Jochen) Bishline Banjos Trinity Guitars Buscarino, John Bear, G.R. Blanchard, Mark Lehmann & Cole Ryan, Kevin Mahogany is a dense, medium weight wood that yields a wide range of guitar body weights, depending upon the source of the wood. Martin Guitars Rein, Thomas It has been handpicked by famous musicians and rock stars for use in their personal instruments. Rivero Dumble Eggle Mönch, Edgar Larson Brothers Lentz Dunwell Guitar Walker, Kim Baron Guitars Visesnut Cases soloway The Honduran Mahogany … Ching, Douglas It is also used for soundboards. Simpson Moonstone Hoffman Wood, organic material... unique like fingerprint. White, Woodley Olson, James Mustapick Ameijenda, Ariel JGS Guitars One way to distinguish the two – African mahogany has no obvious smell. I thought I had purchased African mohogany a while back, but the more I look at what I have and study other mohoganies, I think I have sapelle (or however you spell it). Godin Caseadillo Case Covers G7 Mermer wood from this genus is very friendly to carve, which is the primary reason its been used for fine furnitue (and guitars) for 100's of years. V. Da y Sobrinos De Domingo Estesto Baker Solid Ground Stands Walker, John 52 Instrument Co. (Jeremy Clark), Special thanks to builder John Mayes for the information and images below. Greven Leach, Harvey Often referred to as having a “woody” tone it’s low overtone content gives it a crisp strong fundamental that is bright and responsive. Guild Under finish, it appears to burn with an inner fire of ruby-red intensity. D'Aquisto, James L. Doc's Banjos Muiderman, Kevin Turner Ellis Mandolins Composite Acoustics Sanders, Ashley McIntyre Pickups Fischer, Paul Rasmussen, Lars Goodall Dudenbostel, Lynn Rodriguez, Manuel Sitka’s combination of strength and elasticity translates into a broad dynamic range, yielding crisp articulation and allowing for everythi… Ball Mauel Guitars Gropp, Armin Rossner, Heinz Arnold, John Gustavsson Huerga Mattingly, Robert Everett Kohno Merrill, Jim Therefore, it is not as close to the old growth. Dyer Alberico, Fabrizio Heritage Probably more that I even wanted to know.... Dont tell anyone but I have a stash of swietenia mahagoni setting on a shelf in my sticker room. Rodriguez, Thomas Noble Thames, Michael Description. Khaya has excellent acoustic properties, and instruments with khaya back and sides produce a deep projecting sound. Hauser, Hermann III Its look is unlike any other mahogany in the entire world. Jang, Isaac Hahl, Stefan Its sound falls somewhere between Maple and Mahogany. Northwood Laskin, Grit Fernandez, Jeronimo Pena Bown, Ralph Echizen, Ryohei Carvalho, Samuel African Mahogany and Utile are also used for boat building. the common species for guitars is khaya ivorensis, but as mentioned above, tehre are several others. Traphagen, Dake Wilson, D.L. Green, Aaron Paldacci Guitars khaya ivorensis is very similar to honduran in properties, and is commonly very light weight (lighter than swamp ash), but can also be moderately heavy. African Versus Honduras Mahogany Woodworkers compare the grain characteristics, color, and machinability of different Mahogany varieties. 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